Are Inside Out Throws Dead??
The evolution of breakthrowing techniques has undergone significant changes over the past decade, leaving many enthusiasts questioning what happened to the traditional method. This video explores the shift in forehand breaks from "inside out" (IO) to "outside in" (OI), a throw commonly referred to as an OI IIO. According to Rowan McDonald, who learned the game in the early 2010s, breakthrowing was taught differently back then, with an emphasis on angling the disc towards the receiver. However, modern techniques have led to a different approach, characterized by faster releases and easier control. Aerodynamic, mechanical, and flight path differences between IO and OI flicks are also discussed, highlighting the advantages of OI throws, such as longer distances and improved touch. This video delves into the changes that have occurred in breakthrowing over the past 10-20 years, shedding light on the evolution of this essential skill in disc golf.
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If you look back at film from a few years ago, you'll see a throw that you rarely see these days, the inside out forehand break. If we quickly compare the shape of some forehand breaks from 2024 to throws from 2014 or even further back to the 2000s, the difference is pretty stark. As somebody that was learning the game in the early to mid 2010s, I can say that breakthrowing was taught differently than it is now. There was an emphasis on angling the disc such that it was bending around the defender and toward your receiver. So against a typical forehand or flick force and a round break should be outside in or oi while an inside break should be inside out or IO. But if you look at these brakes from the 2024 final, the inside brakes or OI. This throw is commonly called an Oi IIO, pronounced OO, meaning an OI break to the traditional IO lane. According to the old school way of thinking, this means the disc would be traveling closer to the defender and bending away from the receiver. So, what on earth happened in the last 10 to 20 years that flipped brake throwing on its head? The first things we need to understand are the aerodynamic, mechanical, and flight path differences between an IO and an OI flick. First of all, to throw an IO forehand, you need to drop your throwing shoulder down. This means that you cannot reach as far, and therefore, you can throw an OI forehand further away from your pivot point than an IO. Additionally, an OI release is typically faster since it requires a smaller change in the arm angle since most throwers hold the disc vertically during their windup. Finally, OI throws are easier to control, especially when it comes to touch and speed. It's usually easier to throw an OI flick that will fly through the air slowly and stop where you want it to, which makes OI flicks particularly useful for short throws. Another advantage of the OO is a concept called the functional breakthrow. Rowan McDonald has credited his former truck stop coach Daryl Stanley with this idea. The shape of the OO means you can release a throw on the open side that travels to the break side. This gives your offense momentum towards the breakside with a lower...
