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Testing 6 Speed Discs | Should They Fill A Gap In Your Bag?!? // Discraft Zombee vs Kaxe Z Review
Review: Discraft Zombee vs Kaxe Z - Should They Fill A Gap In Your Bag? We test high-speed discs for disc golf.
Watch on YouTubeThe Bonanza disc golf podcast dives into the often-overlooked speed category of discs, a gap in many players' bags. Hosts examine three six-speed discs: Discraft's Zombee and Kaxe Z, alongside Sycamore's 7501. With only a handful of great comparisons to the Zombee, this bag is particularly challenging to find comparable releases for. The hosts take these discs on five holes in West Palm Beach, Florida, aiming to beat par with each one. As part of a special request from a patron, Christian, one disc that doesn't reach par will be given away, courtesy of the host's stash of "trashed" disc swaps. With Adriel's Sycamore 7501 as the third contender, this episode promises insight into the nuances of six-speed discs and their performance in challenging layouts.
Podcast Transcript
welcome back to Bonanza disc golf into another bag of Bennett which is patreon sponsored for the Discraft zombie kind of super interesting mold six six negative one one so there's not a lot of great comparisons to it but I found a couple one is going to be the cax Z coxazeta from castaplastis 6502 but really one of the only other good six speeds that's not a leopard which is super flippy or at least well known and then the last one was one that Adriel actually just sent out to me that I didn't think I was gonna use for any videos but I was like it kind of feels similar which is the Sycamore 7501 but it feels a little bit deeper because the zombie here this one's a little puddle top but it just feels like the rim is a little chunky I don't know it's definitely six-speed like thin but it's like pretty thick this way and the Sycamore I picked it up and it kind of reminded me of it because it's pretty thick that way so we're going to take these three discs across five holes in West Palm Beach Florida and see if we can't beat par with all of them and any of them that I can't beat par with I'm gonna be giving away except for the kaxy because first off I'm gonna be part with it second off I got this in the trash Panda Holiday swap so I'll give away one of these other discs if I can't be part of this unless I don't be part of any of them then I gotta get more away but that's not gonna happen okay okay so I'm super excited to throw these because this is a speed category that not a lot of people would consider and honestly I wouldn't really consider it myself Christian was my Patron who requested the bag at her minute so if I lose with any of these is going to go to him we're studying at a 252 foot hole straight up the gut here to the basket I want to see if these will flip at all 7501 is going to be a little different but we're going to try to throw them all not really flipping but just flat and see if they'll turn hopefully not hit that tree on the right but zombies gonna be up first I'm very interested very it's it's so thick it's kind of interesting this one is a little bit I found this one used but I try to get the best quality one that I could so it looks like it's pretty nice go ahead and just straight up the gut foreign oh that is straight a little bit of fade not a lot of fade I couldn't even see where it finished but that was nice that was real straight it's interesting it's an interesting speed I don't know if I want to throw six speed at all I feel like it's similar to a five speed or seven speed it's kind of it's it's weird it's I wonder if it'll be any different I'm also wondering if this has a seven-speed sycamore will be any different because it does feel a little bit wider Gotta Throw it the same a little bit higher oh that is way flippier safe though Josh over AGL did say that that would fill my flippy slot but I see in the number 7502 I imagine it wouldn't be as flippy I wonder if that's any different but cax Z right here I'm going to use the anglo-sized pronunciation I'm sorry it's just much more natural for the way I speak I was apologize to all of my swedes really good go in the basket oh that's gonna be a birdie this is not what I would have expected but off the bat I think that the Sycamore is the most Flippy and then the caxi and then last is the zombie or no then the zombie then the caxi I think the caxi is the most stable but that's all only after one throw each try to get the nice big birdie with the Sycamore oh just a little left man it gets dark fast nowadays we need the sun to stay out longer come on where did the zombie even go what the heck easy caxy birdie where the heck I'm gonna go I thought it was gonna hit this cluster and stop foreign oh it is it's right here just nestled in all right two of them are under par four holes to go let's get on the hole two real fast which is actually just gonna be hole one all right hole two is pretty interesting it's 300 feet strength you got because we could probably just throw these on a hyzer flip line I want to see how they hold turn and we're going to call Amanda to the left of that middle palm tree and just see if we can beat this tree and keep them holding turn I think probably gonna throw a little flat just a little left foreign little anhyzer get there all right I think honestly that same shot a little higher maybe even a little flatter with the Sycamore I don't know why this is so Flippy oh so flippy geez all right that's like more like the zombies numbers maybe even a negative one zero or negative two one zombie I was wrong I think the zombie is about the same stability as the kaxy which makes I would probably say that's a zero one or something because I threw it probably about a six speed and it was gone it was like just dead straight and I think I I tried to throw it straight to see if it would turn and I tried to turn the kaxy and I tried to throw the Sycamore straight so the zombie and took more similar shots very different results Galaxy I did turn over and it's right in between the two so I'd say probably cat Z and zombie are relatively similar but the kexi feels more like a mid-range than the zombie does all right big putt from the Sycamore man I can't believe I threw that taxi into the ground that was a nice looking shot they don't call it too early but I thought it was in the whole time that one dropped more I counted for the Tailwind on the first one I was like I'll be able to throw it hard enough and then it still dropped it put it by myself you know nice easy cleanup from the kexi and apparently I'm crazy because I want to take the same putter I just missed to put a 50 footer from the zombie hi oh gosh all right that putter doesn't want to go in the basket and apparently I don't want to keep the zombie because that was bad easy headwinder is going to lift the putt freaking bogey dude all right that sucks luckily Zombie's a good disc so I should be able to Birdie on these last three all right our third hole here is 250-ish feet and I want to see how these will hold a little bit of forehand torque we're obviously gonna have to be touchy but honestly the zombie it's so weird because these are both six speeds and there's no they look they look very similar actually but for some reason this feels more like a mid maybe it's a little bit chunkier from the top to the bottom I don't know why this feels more like a mid maybe just because I know it's a mid yeah it's a little more round at the bottom here they feel very similar though like what the heck Sycamore definitely different definitely feels more like a driver more like a seven speed but on this shot here we're gonna try to split either one of those gaps honestly zombie doesn't have the box cats he does no Sycamore does oh my gosh Bernie parbogey we do have a wind pushing us from the left to the right so that'll affect it but a little bit of hyzer just let it get through a gap finish towards the basket see if we can't turn them over and actually get a full flight out of them we can and it's a little long sit down before the out of bounds oh barely okay that was a nice little flip up didn't really have any comeback I'm gonna try to throw a similar shot with both of these okay Z next oh I hit the PIN I thought I was gonna hit the tree it's definitely slower like I feel like if that was the seven speed and I saw that same flight it would have hit the tree but it didn't because it's definitely a six that literally hit the pin all right that definitely held the torque but it lifted it up like a mid-range does on a forehand instead of keeping it low I imagine that'll be similar on the design I don't know the zombies Party Line seems to be slightly lower it's slightly more domed before it goes under that's so interesting a little more flip up get the same exact line now go in the basket oh my gosh are you joking okay the kexi and the zombie are like the same but for some reason the caxi feels more like a mid-range that dude oh my gosh and I think that shows you like I felt like I threw those all very similarly even the second more second more is definitely flippier I thought being a seven speed and just saying it was slippier it'd be more similar to those two but I'd say that the zombies numbers are incorrect and the sycamore's numbers you flip the last two and I think you got it right it's like a more negative one one zombie zero one what a spread there are you joking I almost didn't film this video right now because I was like it's getting too dark but I was like we can rush it oh my gosh man this is crazy oh it's the red one get out of here no that's a bad roll parked zombie parked I'll have to make this to keep the second more what is my life right now you don't need to see this last one that's like six feet Jason don't even say football because you couldn't see it okay you don't have any seconds in the comments oh that's true no one's ever seconded to Jason's football so that none of them actually count all right these people started walking through oh there's another one coming just as I'm needing this time I think we are going to try to hyzer flip these up through this Gap so throw them hard on hyzer through the right Gap and see if we can make it through I'm not about to be able to do this though and I'm about to lose light on my last hole people need to stop walking in a walking Park you know what are they thinking walking in a place that's designed for them to walk okay so taxis up first real fast really good now get some fade catch some fade oh Nice Shot Zombies up next you mind if I throw one more real fast foreign yes great shot Anthony that thing is way flippier than it suggests which makes it a really good disc but it is definitely seven five negative one one seven speed I think is right on it it's kind of that's Sycamore honestly kind of like what you want your beat in 7502 this could be oh these are way better than I expected them to be for not focusing at all alrighty three easy putts zombies the farthest they're all kind of are right at edge of circle maybe slightly out focusing on following through not up okay see I left the red boy that's a brick tradition baby Good Start frame let's go thought I missed it now the red one remembers how to be made one last hole everybody's under par these these better this than I expected I don't know if they have a place for my bag though and we'll talk about that in a second all right last hole 250 feet that ahead of us I think this might show a little bit of why I don't think there's really a place actually there kind of might be I really like the caxi honestly over the zombie I mean they're honestly interchangeable they're the same I just I got this one and it's kind of cool that someone just gave it to me so that's probably what I might put in my bag because honestly if you have a tweener distance for me at like 330 350 feet where it's like I can't get there with the mid or a fairway but neither of them are comfortable because one I have to push too hard one I have to push not enough this might be the perfect disc for that we're gonna throw here 250 should be really easy just anhyzer slight anhyzer with a zombie and the taxi and slight flat with the Sycamore but caxis up first nice and easy for the birdie just don't go be headwind headwind since it just don't go beak gozobi luckily that's the one that has Birdie's despair I think the zombie and the Sycamore don't I forgot that I'm throwing into a headwind and I need to remember that all right not actually Anheuser just flat out such a big head with Anthony and a little far sit down that's actually gonna be fine oh maybe a little long Sycamore that thing is flips it easy really nice though sit down oh that's so good that was so good I thought I put way too much higher on that but my body did the right thing it rusted itself so yeah what I'm saying is these seem to be an in-between spot instability and stability but in distance I wish they were slightly more overstable though because I feel like if the caxi was slightly more of a stable if the zombie was more like an actual zero two and not like a zero one that would fit a really nice slot where I can throw them a little bit harder and really trust that they will ride flat and then have a little finish and get me to that 320 to 350 much easier because I can push them in 340 350. I also can get a fairway 320. down the street Corridor is what we're talking not big heisers because that just makes everything easier and so these might have a spot I just I don't know if it has one in my bag right now I also think that the caxi is safe but I'm not a thousand percent sure I mean it doesn't really matter we're gonna make the par putt but I for some reason for out there was a headwind that is bad oh Anthony oh Anthony thank God we made that last birdie zombie birdie red one did not remember how to make putts Sycamore par is under par thank goodness man it's like speed running making a video here with this light losing so honestly these are kind of a very interesting slot for me and I don't I might play around with putting one in my bag especially as I get closer to the season having worked on my form figured things out because if I get good enough in my form that I'm able to control my speed with my arm a little bit better I won't need one of these because I'll be confident that I know how to manipulate the Angles and throw a seven speed 310 to 330 feet and also a mid-range 330 to 350 feet while hitting my angles and stuff correctly but that's still a struggle I might play around with having the caxy in my bag or maybe the zombie but these are honestly very interchangeable to me like they have flew almost identical today taxi may be slightly more stable maybe Sycamore surprisingly Flippy and I think The Parting line is definitely yeah it's definitely slightly lower there's definitely Dome that comes to it beforehand but also a good disc uh kind of fit in with these discs a little bit I thought it fit in more because I thought that honestly if it was a little more flippy to the numbers it would just go down and taking speed but it ended up being a little bit more flippy if you want to check out the last patreon sponsor back a minute check it out right up here actually not patreon sponsored the jokery I I should have told you the name because it's not in the title but it's a really good disc you should check it out otherwise I also filmed some new kids in the bag videos which is a new series on the channel where I look at manufacture that's completely new to me or at least mostly take a look at their lineup and try to shoot a really hot round 18 holes check that out right down here I wish I remember how to putt but as it stands you only need to remember how to put a little bit kind of like that one's enough okay love you bye